About two years ago, I published the Cost of a Trip Around the World based on my experience traveling for 15 months through over 20 countries.
I kept meticulous records of my expenses not because I was trying to stick to a budget, but out of a curiosity for what I was actually spending. I was also intent on sharing the results with readers as I traveled, so they could have an idea of how much money to save if they were planning to visit similar places.
This summary of my expenses continues to be Go Backpacking's most popular post in terms of raw traffic month to month, so I know plenty of people are looking at it. And I still receive the occasional comments, which have echoed a common theme -- that my spending was surprisingly high.
@adventurerob said "I'm surprised you clocked up such a cost in Thailand though, I found it a lot cheaper then $55 a day."
Friedel of Travelingtwo.com wrote "this strikes me as so expensive"
Mic asked "u think u could spare some extra money. because i think for ex. 45 € for india per day is a loooot. dont u think?"
Magda wondered "I would love to know what Dave did do go through $51 a day in India"
Roeyurboat commented "Between $35,000 and $40,000 for 15 months of travel is hardly even close to a "backpacker's budget" $54/day in Nepal? $51/day in India and similar rates for Thailand and Indonesia. Dave must have been enjoying some very high end accomodations to average those rates in those countries."
Txrizzle recently shared "My opinion is that the spending listed above is much to excessive. One could take that same $30,000 and spend 3 years traveling the world. $50+ in Thailand? That's intense."
And last week Andyl added "I agree with many here, I don't know how you managed to spend $63 a day in cambodia but that's nowhere near "between backpacker/flashpacker" That's living 30 times costlier than the average citizen..."
Instead of continuing to respond on a comment by comment basis, I'd prefer to address this line of questioning as a whole.
First, this post was a summary of my daily averages per country, and if they seem extravagant for places such as Thailand or India, I believe it's due to my accounting method, not my actual standard of living.
The most I spent on a night's accommodation? $40 for a private room at a boutique hotel in the capital of Laos, and that was after 8 months of staying in hostel droms, cheap guest houses, and bungalows. In fact, for anyone who took the time to look at my detailed spreadsheet which I link to at the bottom of the post, they'd see I spent an average of $9 per night in accommodation over 253 days in Asia.
My average daily spending numbers are inflated because of the "miscellaneous" category which was a catchall for stuff like souvenirs, cost to ship souvenirs home, new clothes, guidebooks, and internet cafes (which I used for 2+ hours per day uploading photos and managing this blog). Those costs are too subjective, too different for every backpacker, and thus skewed the non-negotiable categories that matter most -- visas, food, shelter, and sightseeing.
When I share my expenses for the recent Japan trip next month, I'll aim to present a more accurate cost of daily travel.
Backpacking is an attitude toward travel, not about one's age or spending habits. If you travel with a backpack, you're a backpacker. I don't care if you drop your head at night on a fluffly down pillow and fresh linens at a 5-star forest lodge in Rwanda, eat at a restaurant frequented by heads of state in Delhi, or try and swallow undercooked intestines in a Colombian pueblo.
A backpack symbolizes two things to me, wanderlust and independence. Sure, you can have both with the wheeled-suitcases, but try jumping off a Thai longboat on a beach carrying one of those suckers. Or gliding between the aisles of gift shops as you do a little last minute shopping on your way out of a country. The ability to do both remains the reason I continue to travel with a backpack.
In Japan earlier this month, food quickly became my primary focus given the cold Winter temperatures and lack of flowers in the gardens. What I saved on accommodations, I spent on food (and then some).
My approach toward travel continues to evolve with age. At 34, I can still sleep stacked like a sardine in a 10-bed Kyoto dorm, however I also want to know what it's like to eat in a Michelin-starred restaurant.
And as long as I'm carrying that backpack, I'm going to share my experiences on this blog.
Amanda Williams says
I like your attitude, Dave. And I agree that even backpackers (like all other travelers) come in all shapes, sizes, ages - and even spending habits. Only you know how you travel best. As long as you're having a good time and not running out of funds, who cares about the details, right?
Lmd_psu says
I agree. Most people equate "backpacking" to "living on $10 a day". I think it's a frame of mind.
Lis says
I totally agree - also many backpackers totally forget to count "misc" - which is often the most expensive part of your budget. I'm a backpacker and on a recent trip my partner and I paid $70/day in Thailand - but we never did laundry, we ate out all the time, we drank what we wanted, we took the first hotel which offered us a private bath - the point was we travelled with a plan not an itinerary, we changed stuff as we went along. In fact now that I am not living on a rock bottom budget I see a lot more than I ever did as a backpacker - want to see elephants - go see elephants! A lot of the so-called backpackers seemed to spend all their time in the guest houses restaraunt/internet cafe - what a waste. Also these days paying a few extra dollars for a private room almost always got me excellent wifi included - didn't have to go to an Internet cafe EVER !
Anonymous says
I agree wholeheartedly, Dave! Some of us enjoy hiking and traveling but want to lay our heads on something other than a dirt floor. For others, that is the whole thrill of traveling. To each their own. Thank you also for pointing out the hidden and misc. costs that often don't get talked about.
RenegadePilgrim says
I think that the difference between a backpacker and other types of travelers is you get to make that choice. Do I wan to stay at the $5/night hostel in Chiang Mai or do I want to splurge on a $40/night hotel room with my own bathroom and other amenities? A backpacker is comfortable wherever and open to whatever. Other travelers might not be as flexible. I'm looking at saving up for another RTW trip (just did it for five months last year) and people asked me what my budget was. I didn't have one. I knew I had a set amount of money in my bank and when it ran out, I was done traveling. This next trip, I am planning on a budget of $50/day. This is a little high, I think, considering I plan to go back to India and am incorporating some volunteer work into it, but I'd rather be on the high side than run out of money again. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts!
Dave says
I took the same approach, traveling until I ran out of money. In fact, that was part of the "the dream" I'd state. The sucky part is when you actually reach that point when you're out of money. I wanted to be on the high side too.
Sarah says
I think backpacking suggests that you're looking to see a different side of a country to the 'tourists' - that label could be an entire debate of its own - and generally planning to stay for longer. The majority of people looking to travel more long term (i.e - outside of the typical 2week holiday) can't afford to do so at hotel prices and so most have to make a choice between the style in which they travel and the length of time for which they can travel.
But, if you have the budget to do it, why not do it the way that you're most comfortable with? If you're still seeing the country you want to see and getting an experience unlike the one you'd have at home, what does it matter what you spend? The flip side to this argument might be that the more you spend, the further you remove yourself from the experiences of the 'locals' and so do you therefore miss out on a vital part of the experience?
Regardless, it's not anyone's position to presume they can tell you what your budget should or shouldn't be.
Dan Haneveer says
Good post Dave, I agree backpacking isn't a budget. But then I don't think it is a backpack either. I think there is something incredibly shallow about how many people who call themselves backpackers travel. I'd like to see the budgets of a few of the booze and party backpackers, but then they probably don't count the 90% of the budget paid for by their parents to "find themselves" at a full moon party. Or we could look at the $10 guys who don't go to Angkor or the Taj because it's "touristy" and the entrance fee is too expensive.
Dave says
Good points. It's that last part that I've never really understood, even back to my first European trip with friends after college. If I'm putting myself in a position to visit a foreign country I may never see again, I'm going to make the most of it.
Audrey says
I often found myself not knowing how to respond to the question "did you backpack" when asked about our 15 month RTW trip. I don't know? Are we backpackers? We started out doing the first half of the trip with backpacks, but what is backpacking? We were staying in mostly hostels but as a couple it was in private rooms. I couldn't take the back discomfort anymore with a backpack so I switched to a wheeled suitcase part way through the trip. Nothing changed though, our attitude, budget, and spontaneous travel style stayed the same. Where we backpackers with the backpacks and then all of a sudden not? Maybe the more appropriate question is "what is your travel style?"
Dave says
Hi Audrey, I was thinking about this last night, and while labels do make it easier to categorize people, asking someone about their travel style seems the more approrpriate question. If I were traveling the same, only with a wheeled suitcase, I'd think of myself as an "independent traveler" :)
Dmitri Ivanov says
Yea, and how much you spend says a lot about your attitute. Listen, Dave - you spend per day almost how much the locals make in a month. Could you BE more superficial? Whatever, man, have fun.
Dave says
You're saying it's superficial to spend money I worked hard to make? When I'm traveling, that money goes into local businesses -- restaurants, hostels and budget hotels in places like India (that don't have hostels as we know them in Western countries), local tour companies and guides.
I hardly think that's superficial, and I assure you my travel is far from the luxury end of the spectrum.
Kris says
Hi Dave can you drop me an email so we can talk to you about a few ideas i have that you might be interested in. I went backpacking at 20 years old for 2 years, ive been travelling on/off, ever since (im 27 now), using the Philippines as a base. I have an online retail store in the uk and a business in the Philippines, but right now i have a few new online projects im considering relating travel so i would love to have a chat with you.
Piter says
Hi Kris,
Contact with me, either. I'm interested in your businesses.
Cheers, Piter from Poland
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Kris says
For me, ''backpacking'' is a ''purpose'' & a ''mentality'', the purpose is to experience new cultures, new people and the countries day to day way of life. The ''mentality'' is to spend carefully so that you can stay longer in order to experience the country on a deeper, rawer level than a regular holiday. When you backpack, your closer to the countries real way of life. When you go on holiday all you see is nice smiling faces as people carry your suitcases, serve you, hold doors open, bring you towels, they're paid to be nice to you. Backpackers dont want this false ''niceness'', they want to explore the real people and what they do and see.... but to be honest, theres no need to really try and define what backpacking exactly is. It is what ever you perceive it to be.
I recently went to indonesia and singapore again, stayed in nice hotels and went to universal studios and all the tourist stops and i had an amazing time, im a backpacker but i freaking love holidays, all that indulging is awesome and is also good for the soul, well, my soul at least. My mentality when on ''holiday'' (not backpacking) is to do everything that is just pure fun and/or relaxing and not care about the price (even if i should be). My mentality when on holiday is money doesnt matter (because money is such a stress in real life). I sit in starbucks on orchard rd, infact i spend half my day at orchard rd. I eat a burger in hard rock cafe, i go to sentosa island and ride the cable car, i sit on the beach and sunbathe.
But the previous year i went to the same two countries indonesia and singapore but i was backpacking. Staying in hostels, using the cheapest (more often most fun) form of transport, eating where and what the locals eat, sleeping where locals sleep. Going to temples and events intended for locals. Drinking in bars that locals drink.
Theres two sides to every country, the regular (real) side and the tourist side, both are great, both are fun. But you will never experience the 'real' side of a country by being a holidayer, you need to be a backpacker, something ive been telling my dad for years and he still doesnt get it. My dad has gone to about 6 countries in asia for the last 1 and half, but hes always visting them on holiday, not backpacking.
Rob Daniel says
Totally agree David, we own and operate 1849 Backpackers in Albany, Western Australia, and the diversity you talk about is alive and well and backpacking all over this beautiful world.
In the last two weeks we have seen five doctors staying with us from Pakistan, an 18 year old who arrived in Australia with $2 in his pocket and little else, a 77 year old cyclist from the UK, a Canadian motorcyclist in his 80th country, hikers, travellers from Taiwan, India, Western and Eastern Europe, the States, Japan, Africa, Thailand, China and Scandinavia. Even the odd Aussie and Kiwi here as well, most driving, some not, and all with different ages, backgrounds, wealth, size, shapes and colours but all with one thing in common - carrying backpacks. Backpacking is a state of mind - I will never throw mine away :o)